anklester

I thought booties were for babies (literal babies). And if hipsters really tried "really hard" to look like dirty, ugly dorks, they would roll around in mud, wear high-water cordoroys or plain pants, use breast pocket pen holders (or whatever you call them), get bowl cuts and not wash their hair at all.

True, honest-to-goodness counter-cultures are not obvious to mainstream culture. When it is, it quickly gets sucked into the "shitstem." All cultures are informed by previous cultures, it's unavoidable. For example, we all have to wear clothes and they can never be radically different from other clothes.

Trying to avoid being a hipster makes you a hipster (defined as - someone attempting to seem cool).

"hipsters," like nearly everyone, are desperate to seem cool. They achieve this by:

1) Acting like they don't care what they look like and dressing accordingly - they are "above" such perceptions.

2) Making self-effacing comments which indicate that they are too cool to be affected by criticism or cut-downs (see maren and angora above).

Other signs of desperation - thinking that being crazy is cool (Simon) Criticising others and claiming things are out of date (Worlds Apart). Claiming you are smarter than others and more privvy to hip information than they are. Lamenting the death of "culture" as if that would be a bad thing. Being a control freak. Being uptight.