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CommentsRe: The Daily Word 05.22.08
yeah? [ Thu May 29 2008 4:39 PM ]
wow, it is crazy to hear about who played here before getting famous. i'm not a Marilyn Manson fan BTW. He's a hack...just using him (?) as an example. I went to school for 3 years with Arabs direct from the middle east (Saudis, Jordanians, etc) in a private school in Massachusetts right during the FIRST Iraq "War". I studied Arabic and the Koran in an immersion learning environment at Cushing Academy under direction of the critical languages program created by the US Government...romantic languages nearly are all US schools generally offer. I'm not nor would I urge others to hate anyone...but that doesn't mean I'm not capable of hate either. Hate is absolutely necessary sometimes. I don't waste my time hating....I just decide to write people off.
My only point here is that there is a BIG difference between "insensitivity" and "hate". It seems like people are putting it all into one big stupid category these days--since 9/11 it seems like there are a very limited few openly hating on Arabs and Muslims (some with extreme prejudice) BUT collectively, we are waaay to sensitive toward the insensitivity of some people reguarding THAT particular culture and book right now. Maybe it is because we feel guilty about blowing them and their shit up willy nilly, Or maybe it is because we're scared knowing that they are so fucking unreasonably sensitive and immediately homocidal/suicidal about who they are and what they believe in. When I was around these guys (also teenagers) I sincerely tried my best to embrace and exchange cultures. I was 12 and I didn't know anything about them. I never grew to even like a single one of them...total opposite effect actually. Those guys were extremely sure that they were collectively the greatest people on earth. Their parents sent them here to learn English, but they made it no secret that they actually found it deeply offensive that we were learning the Arabic language--especially the three Jews in my group and me--a Native American (red indian is the Arabic word for us). Then a couple of them started trying to date (more like fuck) the American girls. Twice this friend of mine and I had to pull an Arab kid off of a screaming girl out on the commons and violently explain to them that you just can't rough up women in this country...especially not just because one won't be your girlfriend or submit to your sexual advances. None of the other Arab guys saw a single thing wrong with those type of incidents other than US stopping the guy with force. In-fucking-credible, man. We had all these all-school meetings to address this behavior and they ALL brazenly admitted to seeing nothing wrong and that we should face reprimand for physically assaulting the guy. Thankfully, most of them were sent home...and each year there were less of them returning. Thank God. I say fuck those guys over there AND I'll still burn thier stupid fucking book if I want to because I live in the greatest nation on earth where I can do that kind of thing...and I would have even before 9/11 ever happened. Lunatics created by centuries of inbreeding.
Yeah... [ Fri May 23 2008 9:36 AM ]
burn it. Come on, EatTheRich...People already burned the bible, and American flags, so that shit is tired already. Marilyn Manson owned it before thousands of paying customers. "Love it or Leave it..." I am pretty sure is trademarked since the 80's.
What is REALLY maddening that no one ANYWHERE can even touch a Koran with their left hand without starting a shitstorm and literally facing the death penalty in some countries where they sing songs and dance in the streets dragging your mangled corpse by a lanyard...total nonsense. Fuck that book....I'll burn it too because I love being free enough to do it (and I'm a fire bug)...........................................oh wait, I'll do it only if it's not considered a "hate crime".
last time [ Thu May 15 2008 11:16 AM ]
there was a prostitution sting there was a guy i went to high school with in the mugshots of the accused on the news. and yeah, at $1200 a pop (sorry, i had to say it) I'll bet there ARE going to be some high profile names on that list......I'm hoping for either Ron Bell or that tough guy lawyer that tears up the check on his commercials. Re: Good Medicine
good point [ Thu May 8 2008 10:45 AM ]
Difrnt has a great point... there were/are European "medicine men": Merlin the Wizard, Nostradamus, John Lennon, Cat Stevens, Ozzy Osbourne and on and on. I'm serious...I can guarantee that everyone here has heard something and GAINED insight by one of these men's teachings/creations. THAT is what a medicine man should do and should be. They heal, they teach, they have an undeniable gift from a higher power and as flawed as all humans are, they can use it to nurture life and create harmony or they can attempt to snuff you out. I'm gonna sort this shit out for you: look guys, if you try really hard, you can fill in the blanks and see that the guy in the picture is either a "Seminole" or a big Florida State fan from what it looks like in gang-style tattoo on his belly. (Most Navajo medicine men I know wear jeans and t-shirts, and unless they were in the Navy or a juvenile delinquent--have no tattoos)...so score one for the stereotype argument. BUT, how many people go to the Gathering of Nations (and other PowWows) and see and hear Navajos or Pueblo People singing PowWow songs in style and content from OTHER TRIBES? Deduct one point for perpetuating our own stereotype...PowWows are not even a Navajo tradition, but the performers all flock there for cash and prizes for dancing and drumming. Next, cut Ms. Chisolm some slack...she was doing a piece on a BOOK that LANGLEY wrote, not presenting her own research. She didn't have to consult any Indians to publish an INTERVIEW. What was she going to do? Stop some random Indian on the street to get a permission slip? Or Call the Navajo Tribal Office and ask to speak with a consultant? Those guys in Window Rock are so damn corrupt they probably have a fee built into that type of inquiry.....oh wait, didn't someone say there is a required PERMIT to do research?!? Those dirtbags want to build a multimillion dollar Council chamber while thousands of Navajos are hopelessly unemployed and unemployable, addicted to meth, alchoholics, and living in shitty conditions with no access to water and no electricity. Real Indians don't need running water and electricity you say? Then you are a fool...look at the Infant Mortality rate on the rez. The adults might not need these things, but fragile babies do. I'm going to say this once and for all, and it is a viewpoint that I have held for a long time: We need to QUIT concerning ourselves with horseshit ie-being "stereotyped" by white people. What is a typical Indian anyway? I couldn't tell you, but look at that fungus Robert Miribal with his bone necklace and fancy hair winning a Grammy and bringing his fantasty wild west indian show to the masses...THAT is who you should be point fingers at. Dude looks like a fool. We need to QUIT whining aimlessly about every single issue that comes up and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...my ANGLO Father made alot of sense when he said to me: "You can want in one hand and shit into the other...see shich one fills up first". Wanting things to be different will never be enough. This brings me to a question: How many Indians that are pissed off about the article have taken the time to volunteer your own quality time and resources to NATIVE YOUTH? NATIVE ELDERS? YOUR OWN PEOPLE? YOUR OWN FAMILY? YOURSELF? WITHOUT TAKING ANY CREDIT OR EXPECTING ANYTHING IN RETURN? (There are those that do, and I respect that...I'm not talking about you.) Who has decided to make your contribution by pointing fingers and feeling good about yourselves? I am a member of a Native News Yahoo Group and EVERYDAY get e-mail alerts and NATIONWIDE I see nothing but a long list of complaints and NO RESULTS or FOLLOWTHRU!!! It seems that Indians are quite reactive anymore--sit back and WAIT for someone else to do the work for them or wait for someone to say ANYTHING at all about Native people and then react by dissecting the words and cursing the people behind them--WITHOUT SEEING THE BIGGER PICTURE--That BOOK is INTEDED to fulfill a curiousity of the author firstly and to make the author some money secondly. BUT it is also intended, without malice, to educate and raise awareness about the Navajo Culture...If you're going to feel betrayed by knowing that a white man was researching for a book and yearning for understanding of our sacred culture, be pissed at THE NAVAJOS THAT LET THEM DO THIS RESEARCH! It's not Langley's fault and not the Alibi's fault and CERTAINLY NOT Christy Chisholm's fault for giving him some press and fulfilling an assignment. Be proactive and get out and do something for your people if you are so damn concerned about this issue. If you're unsure where to start...start with yourself, then your family, then move on from there. **Oh, and if you don't want to share your culture with them, then be fair and BURN your ipod and CDs from any of the guys I mentioned (and more) at the beginning...seriously. Rod Lacy
Difrnt has a great point [ Thu May 8 2008 10:38 AM ]
there were/are European "medicine men": Merlin the Wizard, Nostradamus, John Lennon, Cat Stevens, Ozzy Osbourne and on and on. I'm serious...I can guarantee that everyone here has heard something and GAINED insight by one of these men's teachings/creations. THAT is what a medicine man should do and should be. They heal, they teach, they have an undeniable gift from a higher power and as flawed as all humans are, they can use it to nurture life and create harmony or they can attempt to snuff you out. I'm gonna sort this shit out for you: look guys, if you try really hard, you can fill in the blanks and see that the guy in the picture is either a "Seminole" or a big Florida State fan from what it looks like in gang-style tattoo on his belly. (Most Navajo medicine men I know wear jeans and t-shirts, and unless they were in the Navy or a juvenile delinquent--have no tattoos)...so score one for the stereotype argument. BUT, how many people go to the Gathering of Nations (and other PowWows) and see and hear Navajos or Pueblo People singing PowWow songs in style and content from OTHER TRIBES? Deduct one point for perpetuating our own stereotype...PowWows are not even a Navajo tradition, but the performers all flock there for cash and prizes for dancing and drumming.
Next, cut Ms. Chisolm some slack...she was doing a piece on a BOOK that LANGLEY wrote, not presenting her own research. She didn't have to consult any Indians to publish an INTERVIEW. What was she going to do? Stop some random Indian on the street to get a permission slip? Or Call the Navajo Tribal Office and ask to speak with a consultant? Those guys in Window Rock are so damn corrupt they probably have a fee built into that type of inquiry.....oh wait, didn't someone say there is a required PERMIT to do research?!? Those dirtbags want to build a multimillion dollar Council chamber while thousands of Navajos are hopelessly unemployed and unemployable, addicted to meth, alchoholics, and living in shitty conditions with no access to water and no electricity. Real Indians don't need running water and electricity you say? Then you are a fool...look at the Infant Mortality rate on the rez. The adults might not need these things, but fragile babies do. I'm going to say this once and for all, and it is a viewpoint that I have held for a long time: We need to QUIT concerning ourselves with horseshit ie-being "stereotyped" by white people. What is a typical Indian anyway? I couldn't tell you, but look at that fungus Robert Miribal with his bone necklace and fancy hair winning a Grammy and bringing his fantasty wild west indian show to the masses...THAT is who you should be point fingers at. Dude looks like a fool. We need to QUIT whining aimlessly about every single issue that comes up and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...my ANGLO Father made alot of sense when he said to me: "You can want in one hand and shit into the other...see shich one fills up first". Wanting things to be different will never be enough. This brings me to a question: How many Indians that are pissed off about the article have taken the time to volunteer your own quality time and resources to NATIVE YOUTH? NATIVE ELDERS? YOUR OWN PEOPLE? YOUR OWN FAMILY? YOURSELF? WITHOUT TAKING ANY CREDIT OR EXPECTING ANYTHING IN RETURN? (There are those that do, and I respect that...I'm not talking about you.) Who has decided to make your contribution by pointing fingers and feeling good about yourselves? I am a member of a Native News Yahoo Group and EVERYDAY get e-mail alerts and NATIONWIDE I see nothing but a long list of complaints and NO RESULTS or FOLLOWTHRU!!! It seems that Indians are quite reactive anymore--sit back and WAIT for someone else to do the work for them or wait for someone to say ANYTHING at all about Native people and then react by dissecting the words and cursing the people behind them--WITHOUT SEEING THE BIGGER PICTURE--That BOOK is INTEDED to fulfill a curiousity of the author firstly and to make the author some money secondly. BUT it is also intended, without malice, to educate and raise awareness about the Navajo Culture...If you're going to feel betrayed by knowing that a white man was researching for a book and yearning for understanding of our sacred culture, be pissed at THE NAVAJOS THAT LET THEM DO THIS RESEARCH! It's not Langley's fault and not the Alibi's fault and CERTAINLY NOT Christy Chisholm's fault for giving him some press and fulfilling an assignment. Be proactive and get out and do something for your people if you are so damn concerned about this issue. If you're unsure where to start...start with yourself, then your family, then move on from there. Rod Lacy
ha ha ha [ Wed May 7 2008 6:23 PM ]
BURNED! Stupid Martini Grill yuppies anyway!!! Tons of booze snobs are probably scanning thier memories right about now about the time they went on and on and ON about how they ONLY drink the good stuff. That's why i drink cheap beer at the Atomic. I don't think Leonard's gonna bother to try and put Steel Reserve into Pabst cans to make a few more pennies. HA HA HA HA!!! ahhh....
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