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The Daily Word 11.06.09: Fort Hood, Gary Johnson, Baby Accents

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Fort Hood shooting suspect Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is in stable condition.

What Hasan shouted before the shootings, and the female civilian cop who took him down.

American Muslims fear backlash. Hasan's family says he was harassed in the military and called "camel jockey."

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New Mexican appointed to a position in Obama's cabinet charged with DWI.

Some people want ex-Gov. Gary Johnson to run for president.

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Babies cry with accents.

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Jon Stewart does Glenn Beck.

Public Comments (21)
  • So  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 9:42 AM ]

    being harassed and called derogatory names in the military somehow justifies or excuses it?

    What the hell kind of sense does that make?

    That's also part of the game there, I highly doubt he was "singled out" for being Muslim. My former roommate was a Marine and you wouldn't believe the list of names tossed at him throughout the entirety of his tenure. Your superiors in rank humiliate and degrade you to bring you down starting in boot camp, no one is excluded from that.

    Do people really expect to join the military and get treated with respect upon admission there? Jesus. Watch Full Metal Jacket, I hear it's a pretty accurate portrayal.


    Last edited [11/6/09 9:44 AM]
  • Whites-only covenants  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 10:15 AM ]

    My 1940 home had that language in the covenant. You could have a Chinese houseboy who lives in a separate building, but not the main house. Which is kind of hilarious, because all the homes in the neighborhood are tiny 2-bedroom bungalows. These archaic and unenforceable covenants aren't exactly news.

  • Sure, maybe they're not news  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 10:40 AM ]

    in the sense that they're 60+ years old, but many people (those of us who don't own homes, for example) might not know about this stuff. Plus, considering the covenants together takes an interesting picture of Albuquerque in the '40s and '50s. I hear often about how Albuquerque's not racist and has always been very laid back about such things. It's important to remember where we've been as a city and a culture.

  • They called him names, sure.  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 10:45 AM ]

    But I don't think anyone's using it as a justification. That piece is trying to being to scratch out an understanding of who Hasan was.

    Did you read the piece? There's also a link to a blog he wrote about suicide bombers.

  • So what was the point  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 12:07 PM ]

    of his family coming out after the fact crying foul on the army for his mistreatment? It just seems like an attempt to de-villify him or save face, for whatever reason.

    I'm tired of everything having to be tied to a race issue. How about "our son was just a psychopath who finally lost it and killed a bunch of people?" That should suffice. Just as name-calling and harassment don't answer the Columbine and Virginia Tech shootings, it doesn't really bring any new insight into this picture, either.


    Last edited [11/6/09 12:10 PM]
  • I'd say  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 12:22 PM ]

    Its because everyone's automatically making BS assumptions because of his background and the family decided it would be good to come out saying he's not some terrorist like a good amount of media people are already trying to make him out to be. I just read an article claiming he said "Allahu Akbar" before he went on his rampage, yet the media also reported he was dead yesterday, and that there were three shooters instead of just one. So I'd say the family was trying to take action before the some of the shady ass media did their usual crap.

    And that's not to try and justify what he did, but to point out how quickly some parts of the media resort to knee jerk, racist reactions way too quickly.

  • Joowan  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 12:29 PM ]

    That's an excellent point, and I place equal blame on the sensational media for pulling the race card just as his family did. It's just irritating it always has to "go there" and be a race-related incident. To have the ability to go on a killing rampage like this has absolutely nothing to do with your race as our brains, defective or not, are built of the same gelatinous, gooey matter as everyone else.

  • For what it's worth  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 12:38 PM ]

    You would catch a lot of shit for having the name Nidal Malik Hasan in the U.S. military...

    But on a side note, we did elect someone by the name of Barack Hussein Obama to the highest office in the country.

    So it's obvious people are able to transcend these kinds of ridiculous assumptions, it's just extremely difficult and rare.

  • amuse-bouche  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 12:59 PM ]

    Am I the only one who has never heard of this term?

  • let's apply faulty logic with foxy mcclouds  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 2:17 PM ]

    using faulty logic, (even with the bullshit caveat)

    I would catch a lot of shit for using the name Nidal Malik Hasan

    We have a president with the name Barak Hussein Obama

    Therefore we as a people are able to transcend racist assumptions.

    You're tiresome beef with racism clouds your vision and causes you to make illogical arguments.

  • My baby accent  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 3:06 PM ]

    was British, because my mom was. Stupid Yank babies were all, "GWAAAAAA" at me and I was all, "wah. wah." Merciless tots.

  • Yo "Dogg"  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 3:24 PM ]

    Read all of the threads, not just the latest ones, to prevent looking like a total asshole before you attack what you believe as being "faulty logic."

    What was discussed is how racism, name-calling, pestering, harassment, etc. are all deep-rooted institutions in the military. You'd catch just as much shit if your name was Jack Smith, because now you're from Kansas (hypothetically), therefore you sleep with your sisters and fondle farm animals, etc. Everybody is subject to a a brutal attack as being part of the process. Having that name is no different in inviting those attacks. As does being from Kansas. As does being overweight. I'm sure you see what I mean.

  • I would disagree  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 3:32 PM ]

    on the catching "just as much shit".

    Being of middle eastern descent is most definitely going to catch you more shit in the military. Because of "those are the bastards we're after" kind of thinking. He would definitely be in the minority as well. Being from Kansas at least is American.

  • Yo dawg  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 3:35 PM ]

    I heard you were offended by racist terms in blogs so I wrote "cracker", "nigger", "spic", "heeb", "raghead" and "slope" in this post so you could be offended while you blogged.


    Last edited [11/6/09 3:36 PM]
  • singled out  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 4:08 PM ]

    I didn't read the first comment closely enough, again I disagree

    That's also part of the game there, I highly doubt he was "singled out" for being Muslim.

    I agree that superiors put their underlings through hell, but equal rank will attack a Muslim amongst them.

    My opinion. I've never served, but this seems pretty intuitive in my book.

  • True  [ Fri Nov 6 2009 4:15 PM ]

    but what I was getting at is that no one is exempt from that type of treatment. It's not like all the white GIs are all huddled in a circle laughing at the lonesome little Muslim boy, everyone is subject to a lot of crap there. His attacks are probably just more racially motivated than others in lieu of the current political climate, but everybody else gets theirs someway, somehow.

  • what?  [ Sat Nov 7 2009 2:34 PM ]

    I heard you were offended by racist terms in blogs so I wrote "cracker", "nigger", "spic", "heeb", "raghead" and "slope" in this post so you could be offended while you blogged.

    What in the hell are you even talking about? Nice try at irrelevance, you succeeded!

  • actually I did read the previous posts...  [ Sat Nov 7 2009 2:38 PM ]

    Read all of the threads, not just the latest ones, to prevent looking like a total asshole before you attack what you believe as being "faulty logic."

    What was discussed is how racism, name-calling, pestering, harassment, etc. are all deep-rooted institutions in the military. You'd catch just as much shit if your name was Jack Smith, because now you're from Kansas (hypothetically), therefore you sleep with your sisters and fondle farm animals, etc. Everybody is subject to a a brutal attack as being part of the process. Having that name is no different in inviting those attacks. As does being from Kansas. As does being overweight. I'm sure you see what I mean.

    ...and you still managed to make a really illogical argument that I proceeded to point out. Also you're assumption that a really boring person from Kansas would get as much harassment as a Muslim in this type of politically charged climate is naive at best, idiotic at worst. I think youre confusing racism with negative stereotypes.

  • I agree to a certain extent  [ Mon Nov 9 2009 11:17 AM ]

    with you McCloud. They are trained to be tough as hell, and pretty much horrible at times to military recruits/members in order to, in their minds, toughen them up and get them in a war ready mindstate. Yet I do agree that someone of middle eastern descent (or homosexual)is going to take it extra hard because to them that is the enemy and to supposedly have one in your ranks poses an opportunity to them when belittling their members.

    Yet as a person of color, I tend to hone in on situations where people of color are used as examples of what's wrong in the world, when there's so much more to that story.

    And I totally don't get that Xzibit photo above.

  • F4H-K1N6 N0085!  [ Mon Nov 9 2009 11:57 AM ]

    Do your mothers know you are playing on t3h interwebz?

    See if you can find in this thread:

    • an internet meme

    • a nested function

    • a race joke

    • a dig at fehgs who take themselves way to srsly

    Bounus points if you can find those all in one post.

  • That Xzibit picture and variations of quote  [ Mon Nov 9 2009 12:16 PM ]

    have been around since "Pimp My Ride" became popular so, needless to say, years. I got it, madmamma!

    I don't disagree that Hasan would probably be subject to harsher treatment because he is Muslim, but it just seemed like a bit of embellishment/creation of a race issue when in the military of all places this isn't exactly news.

    In other news, I'd hate to be him right now. When committing something like that, you'd almost want to be dead, but here he is alive and well with a mob of angry, confused people after him.

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