RK this was certainly a well thought out summary of what has been happening regarding Mr. Bent. It would seem in his case these bizarre actions might indeed have influenced the request for bond. I too wonder if calling those that would be proclaiming judgment the "Beast," would be the way to go when you are appealing bond for release?
And this fast that has now gone on for days and days which is in truth drinking a tasty nourishment drink, is that really a fast? Will we be returning to the Strong City site months from now and seeing Day 240 of a FAST? I go back and forth myself between laughing and truly feeling quite sorry for this pitiful character and even more so for his people that must wonder what to make of some of his strange behavior. I know they always claim support but in their deepest hearts I wonder if they do?
What I did find interesting though was the brief filed by Attorney for Wayne Bent, John McCall. Whether the limiting of the trial duration, the number of defense witnesses, some of the possible prejudicial questions of Mr. Bent and or the instructions to the jury being flawed might be enough for an Appeal I certainly do not know. But I did find the brief might raise at least some hope for Bent's side. I will give them at least a B for a good effort.
In the mean time because this could take a very long time what can we expect from Mr. Bent? Will he remain in the hospital smiling happily while he gets his milkshakes instead of beans? It just seems that the original purpose for the fast has gone so far off point that what remains is a bit of a sham.
Wayne's people are you still with him on all this?
On the [link] site, which is the mirror site, the latest National Geographic show has been posted on the videos page (just click the videos tab at the top when you enter the site). It is there in six segments... on the video page... scroll down, because they are the last ones on the page.
Also on the Strong City Mirror site there is a Comment tab at the top. You can actually post your comments or offer further discussion of this case on any page, by filling out the Comment form. Unlike the Strong City site which limits comments on the Strong City2 site about 99% of the comments will be posted.
Or if some want to discuss a certain aspect of the case, that would be great too.
With the hearing today (no news yet) it would seem this case still brings out passionate feelings on both sides.
Nice Post by Polemic, in helping to understand what these scriptures really mean.
A Youtube has been made of Wayne's last statement, or Prophecy on December 30, 2008.
Trial Transcripts can be found here:
Well it is about time. Polemic has found a way to get the real answers on all this. And it is very clear that Wayne is in big trouble for not listening to God and doing all of what was asked of him. It is no surprise at all he is where he is. Thanks Polemic for getting this message sent down!
Again Wayne's words on the minors:
Now it becomes evident how the church would be judged by these events. Two of those persons who requested intimacy were minors. Truly, if I were to carry out this request, I would, according to the state, be a criminal.
If he carried out their request, which he was indeed considering, he would be a criminal!
It was too much and Wayne could not follow through:
After some days wrestling with the images and fearing the outcome, I asked God to not put this on me. I told Him that I could not do what the girls had asked of me. I also told the seven young ladies that I would not be with them in a physical way as they had requested. I was finished with considering it. The girls were visibly shaken and some of them wept at the stand I had taken. I felt that it was the right thing to do for the girls' sake and for my own sake.
If we are to believe Wayne this was an agonizing decision for him to become a criminal in the eyes of the world and even his church. He must back away from this, he says.
God leaves Wayne:
Shortly after this, while in prayer one evening when I told God that I would not be doing these things, I felt the Holy Spirit leave me. I felt as though the Father was saying to me, "Okay, I will release you and get someone else to carry out My purposes." I was suddenly stricken with a terror I have not felt before. Also, I was without God, and confusion began to set into my mind.
The terror that enters his body because God has left him is too much for Wayne to bare.
Wayne says he will do anything:
After this revelation of the removal of the Spirit, I told the Father that I would do whatever He asked of me, but I could not live without His Spirit.
Where we are today
And this is where we are today really. Wayne admits he would do anything, anything apparently that the girls wanted. The consummations with the seven virgins occurred and he stopped short with the underage girls, even though they requested more, he only allowed the spiritual naked healing, which of course by the laws of the State still caused him to be locked away.
Wayne seems to accept whatever would be in store for him:
I would now carry out whatever the Father instructed me, no matter the consequences and no matter the circumstances.
No matter what, really?
No matter what? Now he is in jail and that was the "matter what," that was his fate for his actions. A man cannot be put in jail for a consummation with an "of age woman." He is not in jail because of that. Wayne sits in jail for the actions with the young minor children. The actions that by Wayne's own words he knew would be a problem.
It is not for the wonderful "Marriage of the Lamb" with the Seven of Age Virgins. I am not sure if you from Strong City exactly understand that. The only reason that it was posted here about all the Consummations was just to give a bit of a history lessons for those that were unclear about what happened and when.
It is still the young precious children that most of us are thinking about when we show are concerns regarding Wayne and his women.
If I may borrow a bit from Polemic's post and further comment using Wayne's own words and how I interpret them.
Wayne clearly states right here:
This was an awesome moment opening up to my mind. Immediately the five other young women whom the Father had called to be His messengers came to me individually and told me that it was on their hearts to come and lie naked with me on my bed. But there was more. The young ladies shared with me that they saw clearly that I am the Son of God, and their desire to be with me was not a human drawing. Since receiving their request, they shared how they had been delivered from fears and other emotions that had troubled them, when they were naked and vulnerable with me on my bed, and six of the young women desired a closer connection with me and asked for an intimate physical relationship with me. My response to each one was that the Father would arrange those things which were on His heart to accomplish and He would arrange anything which was to come. This revelation was initially startling to me, for I had never considered it before they had requested it of me.
It would seem that after the first two women consummated with Wayne Bent back in 2000, a number of years passed. And then one day as Wayne was walking it came to him that there would be seven virgins who not only would act out the events in Revelation Sixteen but would also request to lie naked on Wayne's bed. But that was not enough they also wanted a physical consummation with The Son of God. It would seem at least at that point too, Wayne as Michael was saying he was indeed The Son of God. I do not understand why that has been backtracked from, again one of my questions?
Wayne states how he agonized over these requests that the girl's would make from him:
My first inner response to these "intimacy" requests was a terror of what that would mean to me. For one thing, I had no desire for a physical relationship with these young women. It was not that they were not worthy souls, but the mountain of impossibilities for these things seemed staggering. I began to consider the ramifications and my self-interests. Could I survive such a thing? But more than that, two of the young women were legally minors, and that could mean jail time. That would finish ruining my already cultish reputation. I shuddered more for the girls, however, and for their interests. This looked like a great crisis for them.
It is interesting that in Wayne's own words he immediately expresses his concern over two of the females being underage. As far as the court case goes, this shows he knew that it was wrong, and he knew it would be a problem. He even states that there might be jail time involved. And that is exactly what happened. Right there in Wayne's own words he puts himself right where he must belong, in a jail cell.
To be continued ...
It is interesting I read Polemic's post and I did not think he was eluding to anything "filthy," at all. The fact that you, Anaiah felt that way, might be more of an indication that maybe you realize that for all of these consummations to have happened with all these different women, and the same man, that maybe just maybe, there is something a little strange and unusual with this? Your overuse of the word "swine," made me feel the same way regarding how you see this, not how the rest of us see it.
It seems, Anaiah, that you are coming off as very defensive and angry in your post. I have never understood why the world is only supposed to be tolerant of you at Strong City but you can show no tolerance for the masses and feel the need to label us with words like, "beast," and "swine." I always thought very religious people were supposed to "turn the other cheek," and be accepting of others?
“But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” Matthew 5:39
You admitted your family needed these "special healings," and yet you clearly participated in something that is shown in the Bible to be wrong,
Leviticus 18: 17 - Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter
How exactly do you justify a man having sex with not only yourself but your daughter as well? And I know you will turn this around and say that your spiritual consummations were not sexual. But a consummation is what it is, whether it was sexual, emotional or a healing. The reality is that a Biblical law was broken. Or do you like to just pick and chose which parts of the Bible can be quoted?
I honestly do not think very many people really cares how many mistresses Wayne has taken or why. And if all you women like to share this man, no one really cares about that either. From Polemic's chart it looks like it has been going on for a long time and you all seem to still be getting along alright, so obviously this has been a good thing on the land. All of Wayne's mistresses have some how been able to accept each other "amazing but wonderful!"
What still puzzles me the most is why you all continue to be so defensive about what has been happening? Why do you want to make it look now, like it is something that it isn't? I think that is my biggest problem with so much of this is that you all have clearly posted volumes about how much this man means to you, how much you all wanted this "skin to skin," and these consummations, but then when the heat appears on you, you all seem to deny it or make it appear different now than it really was. Why all the dodging and weaving of the truth? Some of us have read all the detailed posts on various boards by many of the mistresses and we know exactly what you all have said and it seems to be different now. Why is that? If you love the man, stand up and be counted!
Take Polemic's Little Chart and be proud!
I personally would have a lot more respect for all of you if you were honest and stuck to your original convictions of what happened and why with each of your consummations with Wayne Bent. I have always had a real problem with hypocrisy and that seems to be what we have been getting ever since the Strong City site was scrubbed from the web. Like I said, why not be honest about it all?
First of all where in my post did I say anything was sordid? But if that is the word you want to use fine. My point clearly was, why would these young girls have anything so terrible to be concerned about in their lives that they would need to be healed in such a manner?
The picture on this very page of Willow to me looks to be a lovely, precious child. I was led to believe that everything was perfect and wonderful on the Land. When I read the transcripts that is what I heard time and time again. My goodness Willow would have been 12 or 13 when she laid naked with Michael? She did this because of so many insecurities or traumatic thoughts that she could only recover by a "healing experience?" I would very much like a list of what was bothering her so much that this very dramatic method for recovery would be needed.
Either the land is this very special, wonderful, loving environment, free of the rest of the world's evils or it is not. You cannot have it both ways. And I contend that if these young girls were made to believe they had these deficiencies in their character that needed to be exorcised by Michael that someone helped to create these in their minds. Grooming Part One.
Did the older ladies also feel this need to be healed skin to skin? What was the purpose for their consummations? And am I correct as I read this that Michael consummated with two daughters and a mother from the same family? Did they all have to be healed? doesn't anyone there find this just a tiny bit sick and maybe even to use your word, "sordid?"
And what exactly does "skin to skin," mean if it does not mean without any clothes on. Clearly that is what Healed wanted from Michael. Are you saying she lied when she testified or wrote about it in her diaries and on line in her posts.
And now am I to understand that Michael is not really the Messiah as he has written repeatedly over and over again for months and years? Doesn't that mean that the women and girls consummated and or laid naked with Wayne Bent?
Lots of questions and it would seem that a lot of what is given as answers is scriptures and "double talk." Try very hard answering a few of the direct questions posed to you here on this forum.
Something I have never understood and it has not been explained to my satisfaction anywhere, is why these sweet young girls had such traumatic feelings of inadequacy and felt so unworthy of love that they needed to request such dramatic extremes for healing. To me it is almost like they were first made to be feeling this way (perhaps step 1 of the grooming) and then the rest would be that the only way to truly experience this healing was this "naked before God," who then was Michael.
Sorry, I just cannot accept that these precious young girls who lived in this perfect world, supposedly free of all the ills of the real world, had any reason at all to feel so horrible about themselves and their life to need this. For me this is the first problem with all of this strange religious practice.
Either the land is free of evil or it is not. These thoughts of being fat and pimply are what all normal healthy young preteens feel about themselves. And most of them manage to get over it just fine without this extreme skin to skin healing.
This is one of the reasons I have very serious doubts that this was really for religious reasons. That is because the premise of why it happened at all just seems very wrong. It seems very much like a step by step plan and at the very least a grooming process.
I have many other thoughts on this ... this is just the first one "that is on my mind."