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 V.18 No.48 | November 26 - December 2, 2009 

Music Editorial

Letter of Rejection

Marquis de Sade
Marquis de Sade

Dear Albuquerque Goth Scene,

We need to talk. I know it’s hard for you to tell how I'm feeling sometimes. I know you've grown used to pretty much constant stylized moodiness. But that's just the problem—you're self-absorbed and I'm tired of waiting for you to change. This is a very one-sided relationship. You never think of my wants or needs. You always listen to the same generic four-on-the-floor music ... and I know you do it in a sad attempt to attract impressionable 18 year-old girls.

You're self-absorbed and I'm tired of waiting for you to change.

I need change and variety in my life. I want to have good conversations and be introduced to new things and ideas. But your idea of change is resurrecting the 300-year-old corpse of the Marquis de Sade once a month. It's not fresh and subversive; it’s the same old chips, dips, chains and whips. You talk about the same old topics ... dungeons and dragons, and that VNV Nation concert you went to six years ago. You repeat the same stale party ideas when you feel the need to spice things up.

I had a long relationship with other goth scenes in other cities before getting involved with you, and I never had this problem with them. They always kept the events and music fresh and interesting. I hoped you could follow their lead. I offered you suggestions of events and new DJs, but you're so stubborn. It's not surprising that so many others like me have left you in the past. I'm honestly amazed our relationship has lasted this long. So, Albuquerque Goth Scene, I'm taking this time to officially reject you. It's not me, it’s you.

Sincerely not yours,

VeraBlue

Public Comments (5)
  • Well this is awkward  [ Thu Nov 26 2009 12:58 PM ]

    Dear Bazil (oh sorry, I mean "VeraBlue"),

    I'm not really sure where you got the impression that we were dating. I mean, you're fun to hang out with, but being the personification of a group of people, it's certainly true that I wasn't setting out to think about your needs in particular. Speaking of the fact that you're personifying me, a group of many, as your significant other, I do hope you see the bat-shitting irony of classifying "me" as "self-absorbed" while wondering why a group isn't thinking about your individual needs.

    There's reasons we weren't together. I'm really sort of into doing things that I *like* instead of just doing things just to be "subversive". Sometimes things I like are subversive; sometimes they're not. And there's that whole passive-aggressive thing. I don't have time to deal with dropping hints. If you want to do something, just go for it; I can't really be with someone who waits around for me to make everything happen for them.

    So, you know, we can still hang out or whatever, but this creepy stalker pretending-to-be-my-girlfriend thing has got to end. If you're really just looking for a significant other, though, "hipster" isn't just an attitude of different-and-subversive for difference-and-subversion's sake anymore. It's also a scene. I'm not sure if the hipster scene is available right now or not, but it does get around, and it likes lip rings and signing your MySpace name to letters, just like me. There's someone out there for you somewhere. You'll find them one day!

    Your FRIEND (just a friend),

    The Goth Scene


    Last edited [11/26/09 12:58 PM]
  • This letter is a tough one to follow....  [ Fri Nov 27 2009 6:48 PM ]

    But I'm bored and I feel like sounding off on the goth scene here in SLC. VeraBlue, dearest, you aren't the only one, and I can't speak for all cities, but mine is pretty lackluster also. We have one nightclub here that hosts a goth/fetish night once a month....and I've visited a few times, and a massive cluster of fail is the best way I can describe it. It's a studied mess of 45-55 year-old men in bondage gear who are just there to grind on some 18-year-old squirrel while Lords of Acid is blaring from the speakers, and the smoke machine is gagging everyone in a 12-foot radius. It's the group of rockabilly sweethearts who want everyone to see their clothes and hairstyles, but don't talk to anyone. It's the ICP kids in full clown regalia, mingling their B.O. with the sweaty Acqua de Gio wafting off the group of drunk frat guys who wandered in by accident and stayed to leer at the teenaged girls in cheerleader skirts and vinyl corset tops. It's the vampire wannabes with their billowing silk shirts, Halloween fangs and chalices full of red Franzia from the almost inaccessible bar. It's the bikers with their affiliation-smeared jean jackets...nobody knows why the hell they are there....And let's not forget the neo-Nazis with their camo pants, freshly shorn heads and conspicuous Nazi memorabilia dangling from their vintage Army jackets. And the sadsack overweight housewives with their Jack and Sally sleeve tattoos who are there with their teenaged kids, trying to relive their glory days of Marilyn Manson concerts and cheap absinthe. And my personal fave, the baby goth prostitutes, male and female, who barely ripped the tags off their Hot Topic leather pants and clip-on lip rings, broke curfew to be there, and dry hump each other while spinning their glow sticks until they run out of Diet Rock Star and pass out. I quit going to the club. I just decided to do my own thing. The curious and off-putting amalgam of failure drove me underground, and if this is the best scene my fair city had to offer, then I'll gladly stay there.

  • Leave, then.  [ Thu Dec 10 2009 3:39 PM ]

    Hmm. I've got an idea, then; perhaps you should go back to one of these scenes you love so much. Or maybe you should start your own scene, or try to impress upon the one you already have, instead of expecting it to give everything to you. The "I expect it all and don't want to work for it", attitude is more played out than this subtle disdain for the "scene".

    The ABQ goth scene has always been one of the most welcoming and supportive scenes in it's genre I've been a part of. You might have a problem with the music being played, so maybe you should DJ yourself; you do that, right? Or is everyone supposed to cater to your needs, without concern for what they want to play, and dance to?

    Maybe you should take a demo CD to the Backroom and ask to play - however, from what you've said, you're too good for such a club night, and wouldn't play it anyway. Oh, but you would go to Skinny Puppy, right? Wouldn't that be considered "played out", then, considering that the local music supporting that show would be what you consider "not subversive", and SP is a fairly household name in the realm of Industrial music now? Is it only cool to support the scene when there's a big name attached to it? Because, after all, most of the people buying the tickets to that show are the people you just so eloquently dismissed. So, what's subversive enough to make you happy?

    Keep in mind, also, that this scene is still more active than those you laud so readily. The list of acts which have found their way here and continue to is huge. The fact that festivals like Oscillation happen is still more magnanimous than that of 99% of other scenes. And, finally, the local musicians and listeners/club goers here are still likely to have more heart and soul than those you refer to.

    But again I say; if you hate it so much, LEAVE.

    Back off your stupid stereotypes and consider for once that you're lucky to have what you have. If you want it to be "better", help it be better. Otherwise, shut up and leave.

  • I hear you VeraBlue and Jenn...can't agree more  [ Thu Jul 15 2010 11:02 AM ]

    And for me, Goth scene means nothing anymore, in any city (I've been a part of LA and, briefly, SF scene). Now I'm going to clubs where I actually have fun and spend time among attractive, fit people who are good dancers and aren't a bunch of hateful deadbeat losers like most goths. As to darkness and all... it can be enjoyed by yourself or with a friend, at a cemetery picnic, or with a book during a quiet candlelit evening...certainly not in a club full of drunk ugly pervs.

    I'm off to find and experience new things and people and to feel excitement--away from Goth scene, as it "is a journey, not a destination"--certainly not a destination found in a dead-end heterosexist, misogynist, hateful, snotty, smug, self-absorbed, ultimately un-creative, boring, drama-ridden incestuous scene, full of gothapothamus (fat, unfit, ugly people). I'm tired of deadbeat druggie losers... (I have 2 university degrees and tired of lowlife apeshit stuff people tried to pull in clubs) Since I had left that scene, I had met amazing, truly open people and had seen beautiful new ways--and learned new danceforms!

    Yeah goth clubs are ridden by deejays who're in to get laid with as many dumb younger girls as possible and who harass dancers, roofies put in girls drinks in those clubs, etc...gothapothamuses...hateful, eeeevil witch-vampire-wannabees... wornout pervs in bondage attire chasing babygoths...people who cant dance.... sorry, LOL, I like to spend time in more exciting environments.

    With LA scene, in particular, watch out for dj Frank H-bomb who gropes people in Bunker, also dj Tony 909 who's in just to get laid and worse, and dj Lexor in SF who's harassing dancers and chases "fresh meat" just cause his goth girlfriend isn't enough for him.

  • again, just leave.  [ Wed Sep 29 2010 11:14 PM ]

    Whatever. Once again, shut up, do something of your own, OR LEAVE. I'm sure plenty of other "scenes" will "happily" welcome you.

 
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