
Albuquerque has a number of rules in place governing how local law enforcement should handle immigration. But none of the city’s policies prevented two men from being escorted to the border after a traffic stop this summer.
Aviation Police Chief Marshall Katz was driving his take-home car on July 9 when he stopped Ramon Eduardo Dorado Mendoza for traveling at 75 in a 55 mph zone. Mendoza was on I-25 near the Lead and Coal exit.
Katz’ belt tape video recorded the July 9 incident and was released on Monday, Dec. 13. During the initial conversation, Mendoza disputed that he was driving 75 mph. He handed over his driver’s license, insurance and registration. Another aviation officer, Eldon Martinez, arrived, and Katz asked him to check the license. Martinez then informed Katz there was a problem.
According to the tape, Mendoza was questioned by the two officers about his Social Security number and legal status.
Officers: How long have you had your driver’s license?
Mendoza: ... I was 16, four years.
Officers: Do you have your SS card?
Mendoza: No, I don’t have it with me.
Officers: Do you know your Social Security number?
Mendoza: I don’t know. My mom ... [garbled]
Officers: Where were you born?
Mendoza: In Mexico.
Officers: Are you a legal citizen?
Mendoza: No.
Officers: Who’s in the vehicle with you?
Mendoza: My sister.
Officers: How old is she?
Mendoza: 17.
Officers: Is she a legal citizen?
Mendoza: No.
Mendoza was detained while Katz called custom authorities at the airport. Border Patrol agents arrived on the scene of the traffic stop and arrested Mendoza along with his father, Ramon Dorado Gallardo, who had shown up in the interim. Mendoza and his father were escorted to the border that day. Mendoza’s sister and their mother, who had also arrived, were allowed to leave.
The aviation police work primarily at the Sunport. They’re not affiliated with APD and have their own standard operating procedures, though the department is overseen by the city. An Albuquerque City Council resolution passed in 2000 states that no municipal resources are to be used to identify a person’s immigration status or apprehend people solely on the basis of immigration status.
City Councilor Rey Garduño says he viewed the video. “It is clear to me that the aviation officers engaged in questioning an individual about his citizenry and asked that that same individual speculate on the citizenry of another individual,” he says. This violates explicit rules established by the Council’s resolution, he says.
In late May when Mayor Richard Berry allowed Immigration and Customs Enforcement into the Prisoner Transport Center, the city assured that police procedures are specific. Albuquerque Police Department officers aren't allowed to question a person about immigration status unless it's relevant to a criminal investigation. The power to enforce immigration laws and arrest immigrants resides exclusively with the federal government, according to APD regulations. “Officers shall not stop, question, detain or arrest any person solely on the ground that they may be undocumented and deportable foreign nationals,” the arrest manual states.
Perhaps most pertinent to the Mendoza stop, officers “shall not call federal immigration officials to the scene of a stop or investigation, except in the case of suspected human trafficking.”
Public Safety Director Darren White said in early August that when officers have a suspicion about identity, they are within their rights to question people. City officials then refused to comment and would not release the belt tape or reports related to the incident until now.
On Dec. 13, White told the Alibi that a person doesn’t have to present a Social Security number to acquire a driver’s license, but he said asking someone for their Social Security number is a routine police question.
In this case, he says, Chief Katz didn’t believe Mendoza was telling the truth about his Social Security number. Since he suspected Mendoza was lying, Katz was within his rights to attempt to identify Mendoza, White said.
“You cannot take away an officer’s ability to check someone when they don’t think the information they are getting is correct,” White said. “ ... We don’t want our officers out there as a matter of routine asking people what their status is. But when you have somebody that you don’t think is being honest, is lying to you, I’d expect them to ask: Well, what’s the deal here? What have we got here? Why is he not being truthful to me?”
White said even though Mendoza admitted that he didn’t have papers, Katz was still unsure about his identity and wanted to find out if he was lying about anything else. White said that if undocumented immigrants are truthful with officers when questioned about their Social Security numbers, he is confident that they wouldn’t be further questioned about their immigration status.
“It happens all the time,” he said. “It happens every day in this community. The difference here is the young man lied.”
White did not explain how Katz determined Mendoza was lying, other than going on instinct.
Complicating matters further, the aviation police force operates under its own rule book. Katz reports directly to Aviation Director Jim Hinde, rather than APD Chief Ray Schultz. There are 38 aviation officers. But other than employees who have special vehicles to transport airport canines, Katz is the only officer with a take-home car, according to Aviation Deputy Chief Bob Szmania.
Szmania says the aviation police procedures don’t address immigration. White told the Alibi that his department has informed the aviation police that they need to update those procedures.
According to a report filed by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency about the incident, Mendoza told them he was brought to the United States when he was 4 years old. He does not have any warrants or a criminal history.
I opined about this 11 months ago. My friend James will be released from the jail in two weeks.
An officer asked about all of his status..., including warrants. A warrant was found, pure BS if you want my take, on the charge. Why are illegals held to a different standard than my friend and employee James? Make them accountable too!!
I refuse to hire illegals. Damn-it. I will always hire my neighbors.
Regards
Mike
An aviation police chief who violated the rules regarding asking about citizenry and also calling Federal agents to the scene. What an idiot and asshole. He had no call to ask the driver for his social security card. And he was abusing his privilege of having a take home car.
And why the hell is Darren White negating the rules as well?
So frustrating.
When I got to this part, the article stopped being about citizenship checks:
White .. said asking someone for their Social Security number is a routine police question.
WTF? Asking someone their SS# is pretty suspicious behavior. Maybe I'm just a paranoid loon, but asking me that, would be the surest way to get me to completely clam up and stop answering questions altogether.
Think about it: someone you don't know, who has initiated contact with you, asks to see your driver's license so now they have your name, address, and date of birth. But now they're asking for your social security number? Saying your mom usually handles that sort of thing, might be the smartest thing you can do. And then once they leave, call the real cops.
White, please tell me you're not really allowing your cops to ask for SSNs. Send out a press release now, telling the public that if someone dressed like a cop asks for a bunch of totally irrelevant (yet valuable) personal info beyond what anyone would expect a cop to ordinarily need, the victim should politely play dumb until they're safe, and then report the scam attempt.
Sloppy is normally the most coherent poster here but, sir, I don't get it. You are hung up on SSN#'s for illegals when MY homeys are required to show theirs. Every man in the car has to prove who they are at every traffic stop. Damn.
Why are officers allowed to ask about everything???? EXCEPT whether you are in this country illegally??? Welcome to our shores, Al Kide A (I refuse to respect them by spelling their name correctly)
Again:
WHY ARE OFFICERS ALLOWED TO ASK ABOUT EVERYTHING EXCEPT.... WHETHER YOU HAVE BROKEN OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS?
My friend James will be back at work lifting really heavy objects soon because me and other employers are loyal peeps.
Regards
Mike
PS Skumbag, vitriolic, jackass, non-productive, knee-jerk jack-asses of the court system::::
You will never produce the amount of goods, product and revenue that my friend James will do in a single year, in your lousy and unworthy lives.
Pattriot, I was suggesting that officers should not be asking you about just anything that springs to their mind, and I focused on a very specific example of something they shouldn't be asking about. And I'm not hung up on on "SSNs for illegals"; they shouldn't be asking your "homies" about that either, unless our society has decided to use cops to train the population to be easier prey for identity thieves.
Illegals should not be in the U.S. because of that one fact! They are illegal! So basically what I'm getting at is that if you are illegal then you are a criminal. You should not be in this country, if you jump the border then you should be sent back to your homeland. So that little statement about him not having a criminal history is a lie, for he is ILLEGAL! That means he is commiting a crime. So to those of you who believe he was wrongfully arrested your all but a fool. On another note, he lied to the freaking police so that in itself is a crime. I know what the problem is, some of you people, not all of you, but some of you must have room temperature IQ's, so you have nothing better to do then post false information on the net. Seriously, do some research on the subject before you speak your opinion. Remember this, information without conformation is meaningless.
Thank you, and have a nice day.
Hail Satan! ;-)