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 V.19 No.32 | August 12 - 18, 2010 

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Rainbow Warrior

The Alibi speaks with Albuquerque’s most controversial public artist

Rainbow on the Anasazi building downtown.
Eric Williams ericwphoto.com
Rainbow on the Anasazi building downtown.

Every time I get on the Rail Runner in Downtown Albuquerque, I look across the platform at a rainbow dripping down the side of a building just across Broadway. Occasionally, I hear people point it out to their friends, but it largely goes unnoticed by my fellow commuters. About a month ago, a similar rainbow appeared on the Anasazi Building at Sixth Street and Central—that’s the abandoned high-rise recently taken over by the city after developer Vincent Garcia and two others were charged with 19 counts of fraud and money laundering.

It's like a secret message for the viewer, or a puzzle that invites solving. Like any good piece of art, it begs to be looked at over and over again, to be discussed by its fans and detractors.

Some think of it as a love note, others as a lesson in letting their eyes leave the urban landscape. It seems to cleanse the Anasazi of its reputation, transforming it into something wholly other. The people I know love it. The cops, not so much.

Chief Public Safety Officer Darren White told KOAT news on July 9, “The only person who thinks it's great is the person who did it. We don't.”

 
 

On Friday, Aug. 6, Albuquerque police arrested a suspect, Ernest Doty, in an an investigation into the paintings. The city's graffiti removal team is trying to figure out how to erase the rainbows, which have been dripped from the rooftops of several Albuquerque buildings. The same day as White's appearance on KOAT, signs appeared on the Anasazi stating “this building is unsafe for human occupancy.”

Two days prior to the arrest, the Alibi spoke by phone, under the condition of anonymity, to someone claiming responsibility for the artwork. As of press time, Doty was still in custody and we could not confirm whether he is the man with whom we spoke.

The rainbows you painted seem to have pissed a few people off.

It seems that I have; but not very many people. A couple key people, I suppose.

What inspired you to put up rainbows?

About three or four years ago ... I was feeling really depressed and I had this notion that if I went out and painted a rainbow, maybe someone would see it and feel what I was feeling or feel anything as intensely as I was. The first one I did, I just literally dumped the paint over the side of a pretty ugly, abandoned, alleyway building. It came out OK but not like any of the ones I’m doing now.

I wanted to direct that negative attention and show that sometimes something ugly can be beautiful, too.

How many have you done?

I did four and then I stopped doing them because it didn’t have the response I wanted. Then about a year ago I met somebody who asked me if I was the one that had done the rainbow a couple years back. They said when they first saw it, it made them cry. At that moment I knew it did have the effect that I wanted, that people were feeling something. I think I didn’t hear any responses because nobody knew who to respond to. I just wasn’t around when people were seeing it. That triggered me to do more. I’ve been doing them for, I guess, 10 months, maybe a year now, and I’ve gone from here to San Francisco.

Why do you think the one at Sixth Street and Central has gotten so much attention?

The building itself is already kind of in a weird standpoint. It was in the news. It’s just this ugly, eyesore, half-completed building that’s been that way for years. I think because it was already in people’s minds, they saw this ugly building with these ugly connections. I chose that one because I’ve been looking at it since they stopped construction and I knew it was going to be just another building in Albuquerque that was going to sit until it fell apart. I chose it because it already had some attention, and some negative attention, and I wanted to direct that negative attention and show that sometimes something ugly can be beautiful, too.

There’s been speculation that it’s some kind of gay pride symbol.

If you’re gay and a rainbow stands for pride for you, I’m glad that it does, I’m glad that you get a positive from it. But at the same time, I remember being a child and being able to wear a rainbow to school. It was just a rainbow. It symbolized future and promise and dreams. Imagination. I kinda want to just give that back to people. When they see that, maybe they’re having a rough day or a rough year or life and they can just look at it and find peace for a second and remember what rainbows meant when they were a kid, or when they could look up at the sky and see one instead of seeing billboards and half-finished buildings. I want to let anyone find enjoyment in the rainbows.

Shouldn’t the majority of the people get to decide if it stays?

Why do you choose to do street art?

I want to inspire other people. That’s part of all my art; it’s always positive. I think I chose street art to inspire somebody else in a way that’s outside of the box. Like somebody who wouldn’t normally be exposed to street art, somebody who would just walk past it. Street art really saves a lot of people who are down in their lives and on their luck. This is their one and only outlet. Plus, you get an immediate response from people. A lot of times it’s just, Look at that graffiti on that freeway wall. But maybe the graffiti on the freeway isn’t the ugly thing, maybe that’s not what they’re angry about. Maybe they’re angry about how for the last 10 years you’ve been driving through this prison freeway with these big ugly gray walls and it just took the graffiti to point out the ugly that was already there.

The rainbow on the Anasazi draws attention to something that has been there for years but people have learned to just walk by.

If the building is in limbo, why would you spend taxpayer dollars to remove something that people find beautiful? Shouldn’t the majority of the people get to decide if it stays? Why are we spending millions and millions of dollars painting the ditches? Graffiti removal is part of Waste Management, and they’ll go into a ditch and walk over a couch, past a homeless man and over some broken bottles to buff over some graffiti. Why not pick up the couch, sweep up the bottles and feed the hungry? That’s what we should be focusing on, not painting an arroyo where dirty water is washing into our rivers and polluting our water supply.

What do you say to the people who don’t like your rainbows?

I painted it for anyone who wants a moment to themselves, or a moment to remember or imagine. To the people that have responded negatively, I challenge them to come and look at it. Don’t look at it on your TV or online or in a newspaper; come see it. Don’t look at it knowing it’s graffiti. Just look at it for what it is. Who can hate rainbows? The rainbow [itself] is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, all you have to do is look for it.

I’m curious: Why are you speaking publicly now?

I guess, a lot of people have questions and assumptions. I wanted to let people know it’s not just me, it’s them. I wanted to explain why I did it. Part of the reason I do the rainbows instead of typical lettering is because every sign we see is left to right, and this is up and down. Automatically, your eye wants to follow the line, so you look from the ground up to the sky. It doesn’t have a name and it doesn’t have my name on it. It becomes the viewer’s. That’s part of the reason I want to stay anonymous: It’s not my rainbow, whether you love it, hate it, don’t understand it or wish you had one down your building. It’s for everyone. It’s not for any specific group or genre. It’s for whoever is seeing it at whatever moment.

Public Comments (28)
  • Throw'ies Make Me Smile!  [ Thu Aug 12 2010 9:47 AM ]

    I see Ernest throw'ies (sp?) in the downtown area. They are always where you don't expect them to be. I'm in agreement with Ernest as to why he painted the "eyesore Anasazi", as we call it. The only crime here is that the City allowed the building to be built in the first place! Buildings of this height and structure should not be allowed in the downtown area. I think Ernest spoke for all of us. It's ugly and they need to do something about it. I was not surprised Ernest was arrested. He is an exceptional artist and all exceptional artist bring attention one way or another. Thanks Ernest for making me smile, it's something we can all use right now.

  • Free Ernest Doty!  [ Thu Aug 12 2010 10:51 AM ]

    Hey, no one knows for sure that Ernest Doty put those up. If he did, he could talk about them himself.

    I really enjoyed this interview, but I thought the piece kind of buried the lede though, as it mentions only briefly in its introduction that one of the city's most innovative studio artists, Ernest Doty, has been arrested (and is being held in custody!) as a suspect. That guy should be given the key to the city, not a cell without a key.

    There's also that quote from Chief Public Safety Officer Darren White, who says, "The only person who thinks it's great is the person who did it. We don't."

    ...Which displays such a narrow view of what local culture is that it astounds me. You don't speak for me, Darren White! Is culture only what can be commodified and registered with the local chamber of commerce? Is it only what looks good in promotional dining guides?

    Or is true culture what truly comes from the people, that which sprouts up like rainbow-colored tendrils from the farthest reaches of the world of the city, that grows best under moonlight, and that leaves the places it found more interesting, more alive, and more of a someplace that's for everyone?

    Is New York City's culture just a collection of businesses that one can enjoy one's self at while spending money? Is San Francisco's? Is Albuquerque's? Such a mindset is reductive and austere and untrue at best, and all efforts to make it true only help make our cities more boring.

    Free Ernest Doty! Innocent or guilty-as-charged, let's keep art on the streets.

  • Art As Inspiration  [ Thu Aug 12 2010 10:54 AM ]

    This artist's work is an inspiration - we should be praising him with public applause, not detaining him for a crime that is no such thing. His arrest is merely another example of the misappropriation of public dollars used under the myopic auspices of APD and Waste Management. This artist is brining something beautiful to our city - this is not graffitti, this is not defacement of property - art is not a crime.

    Recently he painted one of his rainbows on the decrepit west wall of the Red Wing shoe store in Nob Hill. He made an eye-sore beautiful for the short time it lasted - until they came and painted it over. No, they didn't paint over the entire wall, perhaps using the rainbow as an excuse to refurbish the aged paint-job - they left the rest of the rotting paint, merely painting over the strip that was his rainbow. This tiny antecdote (along with the assinine comment of Darren White above - which we can only assume is the established viewpoint of our city government) serves as a reminder of the ignorance and miscalculated virtues of the government which should be serving us.

    I say we should take up the artist's vocation in his absence - use alley walls and arroyo ditches and stagnated construction projects as canvases of public inspiration. Bring art out of neat-and-tidy galleries and into the realm where it can truly make a difference. Stop confusing projects of beautification with violence toward property; start expanding our concepts of imagination and reconceiving the ways in which artistry serves the public good as an instrument of catharsis.

    This artist's detainment is an abomination of justice, a waste of public funds, and a blight on the moral standing of our community. I have lost what little respect I had for the city government of Albuquerque. The fact that this post may seem hyperbolic and my demands absurd to most readers only serves to show the extent of contemporary disrespect for the arts and the naivete of those who elevate property over the public good.

  • Roy G.Biv  [ Thu Aug 12 2010 11:10 AM ]

    Red,Orange,Yellow Green. Blue,indigo,Violet...Too Cool.Yes on this...

  • If they dont have evidence  [ Fri Aug 13 2010 4:36 AM ]

    Then they should free Ernest, the cunts. And about the rainbows, they're awesome.

  • This type of art sparks inspiration that crosses genres. I believe all art should be accessible.  [ Fri Aug 13 2010 12:24 PM ]

    So in that same spirit here is a previously published poem of mine. If it moves you pass it on and hopefully that original throwie that inspired me to write will continue to inspire others.

    LEGAL TENDER

    by: J. Wittmer

    There is something pure about writing a poem

    on whatever is at hand and readily available

    cocktail napkins seem the most common

    often the backs of fliers

    though any blank inviting space

    or typewritten page with a wide enough margin

    has the potential to grow beyond

    its original intended purpose.

    I have written poems on all manner

    of blank surface.

    Walls, postcards, envelopes, pant legs,

    the left palm, margins of books,

    coffee pot filters, a crumpled paper cup

    that happened to blow my way.

    Only the most concise poems

    will fit on the

    diminutive real-estate of an empty glassine

    stamp collectors and heroin addicts

    need the steady hands of surgeons

    to draw the tiny letters required.

    It is especially sweet to spill

    out a poem on the envelope

    of an unopened bill.

    I always reserve the hope

    for poets everywhere

    that someday

    we all will be able to send those bills back

    to our creditors

    unopened

    with our words scrawled across

    the envelopes triangular folds

    and that our

    accounts will be reconciled

    the poem accepted as

    legal tender.

    I have seen poems written

    in Japanese characters on grains of rice

    and imagined

    the delicate fingers capable of such a thing.

    Those invertebrate fingers

    softer than sea vegetables

    like tiny probing antennae

    painting the smallest poems

    on pages to perfect to bind.

    In my ideal world billboards

    would be stripped of suggestive commerce

    making space for poets to

    advertise the minds capacity

    for squalor and beauty.

    Teary eyed nine to fivers would arrive at the factory

    having read an entire anthology

    on the morning commute

    and maybe call their spouses

    to tell them for the first time

    in far too long how much

    they are appreciated and loved.

    Sit down strikes

    would be inspired

    though traffic accidents

    may be more common.

    Tyrannical bosses would soften

    or if not be strung up

    by the worker empowered by

    Marxist inspired prose.

    Only the most urgent poems would

    adorn the sides of ambulances

    only the loudest, sickest poems

    would you read as they

    sped by.

    At the recycling center

    you would find only the

    heavily read lines of

    masters

    maybe broken from the

    original poem

    mulched and jumbled together

    with the rest of their contemporaries

    a brand new masterpiece

    reborn out of the cumulative bits.

    Our world could change over night

    if every dull surface were covered with words.

    I have seen it happen in cities

    where graffiti artists have

    hung harnessed at the ends of ropes

    from the sides of

    two story concrete promontories

    hidden by the blind night of a new moon.

    The next morning as the sun rose

    unveiling the poignant possibility of

    all ordinary concrete slabs,

    it was for some

    as if the sun were

    rising for the first time

    the brilliant color of another mans

    visionary spirit

    spilling like truth into their own.

    It was that way for me.

    And for that single morning

    in that small section of that particular city

    the world seemed much different than it had

    just the day before.

    All the commonly overlooked possibilities

    staring starkly and vividly

    asking us why

    we hadn't thought of them

    before.

  • Darren White is WRONG  [ Fri Aug 13 2010 12:40 PM ]

    I've been loving those rainbows! They honestly brighten our community, and I've often marveled at the skill in both paint control, and acrobatics it must take to pull those off. AND no ugly signature, it's not about gangs claiming territory, or public defacement, it's about public ENHANCEMENT. It's a gift that I have thoroughly enjoyed receiving.

    Now as for Ernest Doty, the man is a pillar of the Albuquerque art scene. He has been an important figure for years through his work with CIRQ, public mural projects, a clothing line, and gallery showings. I honestly never knew if the rainbows were his doing, but I suppose I just don't care. The real crime here as that we might now be losing a vital member of the local arts community. Someone who cares enough to bring culture to the people through a variety of completely legal channels.

    APD wasing resources to track down the most inoffensive public artist around??? sounds like par for the course, and absolutely wrong headed. Why don't we spend money taking care of ACTUAL PROBLEMS? This city has plenty.

    - Joe Annabi


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  • don't be a robot. Think For Yourself  [ Fri Aug 13 2010 3:39 PM ]

    there is NO EVIDENCE linking the accused to this so-called "crime"... and it's not fair to be dropping somebody's name into a story like this without any kind of case built on evidence!! even more curious, is why other vandals/graffiti artists who have ALSO applied their work to the VERY SAME BUILDING have not been pursued with the same vigor (look on the west facing side of the anasazi building to see evidence where other graffiti has already been cleaned up). Why is the city so overly concerned with the street art that people actually appreciate? if only they went after people who actually cause physical harm to others with same willingness as they have to somebody, who has done nothing more than apply colorful paint to a surface. Darren White said on the news that it'll cost a lot to clean up and can be a dangerous task because of it's location, but why isn't leaving it there an option? (it is an option right?) if it isn't, then why not? i've yet to hear a logical response to this question.

    people fear that which they don't understand. i guess they figure if they put the clamps down on somebody like Ernest Doty, (a well known artist who gets paid by many property owners throughout the city to beautify their walls, as well as selling his art in multiple galleries throughout town), that this'll send a message to kids who Doty inspires (and believe me there are many). Ernest Doty is a principled human being, known for his healthy lifestyle, doesn't consume alcohol, gives generously to those in need, and inspires those around him with his creativity and strong work ethic. he's always out there, hustling to make his living as an artist and pursuing that which he is passionate about. society needs to reward people like that, not condemn them. the city (whoever that's supposed to be) may not understand or appreciate graffiti style murals, but that's not a good reason to treat somebody who does that kind of art like a malicious hooligan, especially when the exact opposite is the case. time to re-examine our values and question what is truly important in our society. and for chrissakes, stop accusing innocent people of crimes they haven't been convicted! the responsibility of a journalist (even one from a entertainment rag like the alibi) is to report facts and NOT corroborate the false speculations from a poorly conducted investigation done by a highly incompetent police force. such accusations can be damaging to one's career/life, and the idea of imposing that kind of fate on another person, especially without evidence, is flat out wrong in so many ways. and if dare say so, far worse than the "crime" of which he is accused

    besides, accusing/locking up the wrong person will NEVER stop the actual person(s) from continuing to to drip rainbow paint down the sides of buildings. people who act defiantly against a system that opposes their freedom to express themselves, will only be fueled by the injustice they see, not deterred!

    to Darren White, you won't achieve an obedient/submissive society by calling people "knuckleheads" or resorting to unproven claims like "nobody likes it, except the person who did it" ...want some respect? how about showing some first! we don't all see things the same way, any reasonable person knows that much. being ignorant to the diversity that exists amongst us is no way to run a society. to me, the rainbows represent that diversity, it is something to embrace, it is something to celebrate. if you don't like it, that is your right too. however, just because one doesn't understand or appreciate certain forms of art, doesn't mean it has no value.


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  • I heard people were painting their own cars  [ Fri Aug 13 2010 10:12 PM ]

    and hanging ribbon out their windows or down the sides of their buildings in solidarity.

  • misuse of money and resources.  [ Sat Aug 14 2010 9:28 AM ]

    last time i checked, ernest has never followed my roommate and his girlfriend home brandishing a KNIFE and shouting like a madman, though someone, who as far as i know was not apprehended, did just that last week. yet, law enforcement seems to have devoted a great deal of time, energy and resources into finding ernest, arresting him, charging him and now a court date too. i want to see my neighborhood be safe enough to walk around in after dark, not ernest thrown in jail for his wonderful work. darren white should get his head out of his ass and protect this city's PEOPLE. the buildings can look after themselves!

  • Let's try out what the non-puritan world does!  [ Sat Aug 14 2010 11:19 AM ]

    Street art is welcome, often regardless of meaning or quality, in most of the world. It is viewed as the right of public to participate in the aesthetics of their community, and that public expression is no less important than the business/corporate opinion of what public aesthetics should be. We, on the other hand, have completely surrendered to a normative dominance, and only the most powerful entities may set the standard of beauty. Darren White speaks with the voice of tight control, and from the mind where behavioral standards are the most sacred defense against the chaos waiting around the edges of our lives. I understand this fear, but I encourage you: walk out into the chaos. There are people who will shock you with their will to create.

  • lovin' the Rainbow Warrior  [ Sat Aug 14 2010 4:45 PM ]

    I enjoy the Rainbow Warrior's work. FYI Rainbow Warrior, Ernest Doty or whoever you are yes! your work has brightened my day. I've been admiring the public art on the brick building just past the train tracks in EDO for months. Honestly I look forward to seeing it when I drive by.

  • waste waste waste  [ Sat Aug 14 2010 5:16 PM ]

    why is this such a big deal? its actually really pretty, i think.... but you know what isn't? the fact that taxpayer money and time is wasted on such a little thing. its not a threat! stop talking about this person like he painted it in blood. he hurt no one. he snuck into a deserted, ugly building and did something to make it pretty. why don't the police go bust a meth lab? or stop crazies like the one annareser described? people could get hurt and the ones sworn to serve and protect are worrying about some paint drips. way to go APD!!

  • whatever...  [ Sat Aug 14 2010 5:48 PM ]

    I feel several things. First of all, I think it looks okay. Why is this making such big news? And why is everyone standing up for someone who goes around dumping paint on someone else's property? Would you applaud me if I went through neighborhood painting something that "I think is inspirational" all over a bunch of passed out drunk folk? Or maybe if I decided I liked all your Bicycles and cars painted a different color. Would it be okay for me to do so under the idea that a majority of people would agree since it is "Art."

    If someone owns a building and they want it painted up. I'm pretty sure they would contact an 'artist' and 'hire' them to do the work. It happens all the time. You can see murals all over this town, with signatures. Of course this Rainbow child needs to be legit to be contacted.

  • dumping paint on passed out drunks = dumping paint on buildings? uhhhhhh, no.  [ Sun Aug 15 2010 2:04 AM ]

    why are people defending this person? Ernest Doty specifically? because, like i said earlier, he's a valued and productive member of our community. And what if he's not guilty of this crime which he is accused of committing?

    or how about the fact that our city has 1.7 gajillion (actual statistic) convicted drunk driver repeat offenders that get to take part in society until they finally murder someone with their addiction, while this particular "crime" has someone facing YEARS in federal prison. Doesn't that disparity beg questioning?

    the priorities of our leadership need to be questioned. that is our job, as members of the community, to voice those concerns.

  • uuuuhhhhhh no  [ Sun Aug 15 2010 5:59 PM ]

    why are people defending this person? Ernest Doty specifically? because, like i said earlier, he's a valued and productive member of our community. And what if he's not guilty of this crime which he is accused of committing?

    or how about the fact that our city has 1.7 gajillion (actual statistic) convicted drunk driver repeat offenders that get to take part in society until they finally murder someone with their addiction, while this particular "crime" has someone facing YEARS in federal prison. Doesn't that disparity beg questioning?

    the priorities of our leadership need to be questioned. that is our job, as members of the community, to voice those concerns.

    Never said anything about ernest doty. the police did. maybe you know something i dont. i dont know that dude at all. what i doo know is that earth has less than 7 billion people on it. your statistic for a city of less than a million is completely absurd. this is an article about vandalism and not DUI by the way. not sure why you keep bringing in these outside topic arguments.

    we all know the state is going after the DUI issue with the mindset of how can we make the most amount of money.

  • ----  [ Sun Aug 15 2010 10:41 PM ]

    how could you not smile when you look at something like this? i see it every single day, and its great. weather or not it was Earnest, he is one of the kindest people you will ever meet. and i know a lot of people feel that way.

  • C'mon...  [ Mon Aug 16 2010 8:54 AM ]

    ...And why is everyone standing up for someone who goes around dumping paint on someone else's property?...If someone owns a building and they want it painted up. I'm pretty sure they would contact an 'artist' and 'hire' them to do the work. It happens all the time. You can see murals all over this town, with signatures. Of course this Rainbow child needs to be legit to be contacted.

    Have you bothered to see the "property"? It's a damn eysore created by an alleged 'developer' and con man Vince Garcia and his family of crooks. Nothing legit about that crew of thieves. Lieing to the public, oweing large ammounts of money to contractors and their employees and seemingly abandoning the ugly-to-start-with project and leaving a mess. These are the jerks who should be arrested.

    Where's the abatement team and why aren't they dealing with this hazard? Oh, perhaps because these swindlers scam fit nicely into the Chavez/Denelli/White vision of a yuppie utopia in the downtown area. That's the same group of fools who insist on calling the Hunning Highlands area, EDO. Sheesh.

    For the clowns in city hall to be this upset over totally non-offensive artwork is the other crime being committed here.

    What a bunch of jerks.

  • Art is life  [ Mon Aug 16 2010 10:16 PM ]

    Art is an expression of the divine. The act of creation is the highest purpose of the created. Does the sun ask when it smears its colors across the empty sky? Do the moon and stars seek approval for their nightly acts of vandalism? Art is above man's law. It is a law of its own like gravity. And as gravity will happen whether we permit it to or not, so will art. Society can derive ways to control, constrain, and restrict it... but art will seep up through the institutional green tiles. Through the cracks it will bleed on the pale gray walls. Art will prevail. For each splash of bland that organized society dumps down its barriers, a new creative process is set free. The street artist loves the challenge of constant creation. Hours, days, and weeks give rise to painting after painting. All will be lost to a few blind viewers who only see colors as stains that streak the utilitarian setting they adorn their civilization with. The street artist accepts the inevitable. Society will cover, he will paint. The law will condemn, he will create. Guerilla creators and deviant beggars can not be silenced. Immortality awaits those who take up the torch of the artist.

    To the Rainbow Warrior: Keep up the amazing contributions to real society and real life, whoever you are.

  • ...  [ Tue Aug 17 2010 12:00 AM ]

    your statistic for a city of less than a million is completely absurd.

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  • rebuttal  [ Tue Aug 17 2010 6:23 PM ]

    niconice: I Said that I thought it is alright. I am Not saying the piece is bad. But the Choice of how he wanted to share it is inappropriate. Its Private Property. Whether or not its good art he should have sought the legal channel to express those rainbows, whether its getting permission from the owner or buying the buildings and doing whatever he wanted to em.

    Black: The Anasazi building is not the only building hit. i think if it was, I and many others who are property owners in this city would have less of a problem with the vandalism and continue focus on the criminals who ran out on the property.

    deadfred: you sound among many things i wont write here, just selfish. why do you think your art is better than an architect who designs a building. maybe you should get into architecture and fight the bland world you are stuck in. or even better see the beauty in the many hidden treasures a city has to offer. quit thinking you are superior to all other artists.

    hipposex: you say, an actual statistic. first of all dont use urban dictionary as a reference. come on! its even worse than wikipedia. also it seems to me that word should be used as reference for something undefinable, like the number of stars in the sky. not something that can easily be looked up.

    sincerely,

  • Art?  [ Wed Aug 18 2010 11:27 AM ]

    If it's done on private property with permission, it could be art. If it's done on private property without the owner's permission, it's criminal vandalism. It really doesn't matter whether or not you like the painting.

  • This has meaning  [ Wed Aug 18 2010 1:01 PM ]

    "art or vandalism?" That's really a question? This is one of the most inspiring things I've personally seen come out of this city. It represents so much. This world is beyond repair, and they are wanting to incarcerate him? Lol. I am a human and live on earth. We share our home and the rainbows are beautiful. I can't fathom being against what Ernest has done. Thank you Ernest! Good luck

  • Art or vandalism? That's easy.  [ Wed Aug 18 2010 1:32 PM ]

    Dear Alibi,

    Regarding Patricia Sauthoff's article and interview with the alleged "rainbow artist," (Arts, "Rainbow Warrior," Aug. 12-18) is it art or vandalism? It doesn't matter if it's art. If it is permanently painted on someone else's property, private or public, and without the owner's permission, it's vandalism. No excuses. It's vandalism.

    That the city should indeed be paying more attention to other clean up jobs or other crimes is irrelevant and a spurious argument. If it's on somebody else's property without permission, it's still vandalism.

    It doesn't matter that the (in my opinion) pathetic building monstrosity at 6th and Central is abandoned, and taken over by the city, the property still belongs to someone else who did not give permission to have this done to it, therefore it is vandalism.

    The wall at Union Square and Central, on the other hand, is part of a building that is not abandoned and is private property. And the wall seems to be made of well-kept vintage brick. Now it's ruined. That is vandalism.

    And, just for the discussion, are these rainbow paintings art? One of the definitions of kitsch is something which puts itself forward as art by attempting to generate a positive emotional response it does not deserve. I believe these rainbow paintings could fit that definition. Actually, they look like advertising for a house paint manufacturer, or maybe illustrations for a greeting card. By the way, art must also be well crafted. At Union Square and Central it is sloppy and spattered down below.

    Besides, even if this person had painted on these walls a Sistine-caliber art work, if it's on someone else's property without permission, it's still vandalism.

    The real challenge to an artist would be to have displayed the rainbow without damaging the property in any way. Perhaps unfurling wide weighted ribbons or something, which could quite easily be removed. Of course, then we still have to address the fact that getting up on the roof without permission is trespassing.

    The Fractal Foundation has put up rather large banners (that are easily removed) of interesting and colorful artwork by students and others on the sides of buildings with full permission. Why can't this person? Involving students, it would then be a welcome creative service to others.

    I think the thing I dislike most is this person's dewy-eyed self-justifications. There are lots of ways for any artist to offer good feelings and creativity and beauty to others that do not include vandalism. The same sort of justifications are used by the graffiti taggers. Occasionally some of that is quite good, although most of it is terrible. But once again, it doesn't matter if it's good or not. If it's on someone else's property without permission, it is vandalism.

    Peter Grahame

    Albuquerque

  • TeleoTheDream  [ Wed Aug 18 2010 4:46 PM ]

    TeleoTheDream wrote: "I can't fathom being against what Ernest has done. Thank you Ernest! Good luck."

    Maybe I should come over to your house in the middle of the night and paint it in a way I consider to be an artistic expression of my humanity and connection to the universe.

    Then make the same statement.


    Last edited [8/18/10 4:47 PM]
  • I love it!  [ Wed Aug 18 2010 10:54 PM ]

    The rainbows are inspiring and refreshing all at the same time. I love that it's the same rainbow but the levels on paint drips are all inconsistent, it makes every rainbow unique, and each can inspire a different feeling.

  • trolling is fun  [ Wed Aug 18 2010 11:15 PM ]

    dearest jeru,

    "first of all" you clearly don't understand my humor. how anyone could consider 1.7 gajillion an honest to god statistic is beyond me, i was being emphatically absurd. please excuse my levity. i hope this brain teaser didn't cause you too much distress.

    and I'm not defending my dissertation, so i'm totally comfortable using urban dictionary as a resource for defining modern colloquialisms, thanks. i was merely attempting to clue you in to the joke. this was obviously a failed endeavor.

    good luck with all of your land holdings.

  • Paradise;c  [ Thu Aug 19 2010 5:02 PM ]

    TeleoTheDream wrote: "I can't fathom being against what Ernest has done. Thank you Ernest! Good luck."

    Maybe I should come over to your house in the middle of the night and paint it in a way I consider to be an artistic expression of my humanity and connection to the universe.

    Then make the same statement.

    Lol Im not incapable of understanding being against Ernest. It was an exaggerated point of view.

    And I wouldn't mind the rainbows on my house, or even random peoples art. I mean it's art. Can you imagine a city entirely covered in it? Ha

    I certainly wouldn't mind.


    Last edited [8/19/10 5:22 PM]
 
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